bougaev: (в очках)
[personal profile] bougaev
Гггг, ржунимагу!
http://www.rbc.ru/economics/28/03/2016/56f934959a794787d26cef8c

Букмекерские конторы и тотализаторы обяжут ежемесячно платить по 2,5–3 млн руб. за возможность принимать ставки в интернете, следует из проекта поправок в Налоговый кодекс (есть у РБК). Это в 100 раз больше действующего налогового минимума, который разрешено взимать с букмекеров и тотализаторов регионам.

Т.е. ты токой делаешь бизнес план... ога, тут у нас будет барчик с пивчагой, тут ящик с футболяном, а вот тут сортир и банкомат. Ага... таааак... это аренда у меня 100500, знач... это на сисястых тёлок, знач, зарплата 200600... за телевизор кредит 300700 и профита сруболь по итогу. Агаааа. Профит есть. Сруболь, но хоть так.
И тут ННННАНАХУЙ, ССУКА!!!
Бюджету нужны деньги, парень.
Это твоя страна!
Ты должен поделиться, полюбасу.
Теперь ты будешь платить В СТО РАЗ БОЛЬШЕ.

Ребза, не на 10%. Не в два раза.
В
СТО
РАЗ
БОЛЬШЕ.

Не, ну канеш, я подпиндосник и либерасня, всёпропальщик и поравалильщик... но чота ваще адок кокой-то. В сто раз.
Я, кстати, думаю, что не у всякой точки такой оборот имеется то... Не говоря уже о прибыли, из которой надо бы это оплатить.
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Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarik-jhan.livejournal.com
Ну фиг знает. Можт профит все равно просматривается?
Хотя я тут по осени обои покупал... в одной точке налог объявили - они даже думают закрываться.
Какой-то нечеловеческий... 740 тысяч чтоли...

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
"Можт профит все равно просматривается? " - вы серьёзно считаете, что там такой профит, что увеличение налога в сто раз похуй?

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] semaz.livejournal.com
букмекеры и тотализаторы - чмо и зло. хуже этого тока микрокредиты.
поэтому поддерживаю в данной конкретной ситуации.
Edited Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:25 (UTC)

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
Какая глупость, а.
Если они зло - не ходите в туда. Я ни разу в жизни не был в казино или тотализаторе. Впрочем как не пользовался проституткой и не употреблял наркотиков. Но этж не значит, что всё это надо выебать и закрыть?
Кому интересно будут собираться подпольно, хули.

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From: [identity profile] dyemen.livejournal.com
Ошибка. В предложении со словами "Букмекерские конторы и тотализаторы" не обнаружены слова "жжигатса ннахуй".

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
Ещё неплохо бы жжыгать библиотеки! И ВУЗы. Особенно технические.

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forscient.livejournal.com
Все самые жырные букмекеры работают в черных подвалах с глазком на двери и все остальные туда уйдут, останется одно Спортлото.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-reaper.livejournal.com
Ну как-то двойственное мнение тащемта. Вроде и охуели, а вроде и тотализаторы должны гореть в аду, нопремер. Вспоминая свои будни в игровом бизнесе, могу сказать - бабло там крутилось совершенно неимоверное. 2-3 ляма там было типа на карманные расходы мелочишка, даже у не самых больших залов на 40-50 автоматов.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
"вроде и тотализаторы должны гореть в аду, нопремер" - ты ж не играешь. Тебе не похуй ли?
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Тока игрозал и тотальный затор это трохан разные вещи, нет?

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usachoff.livejournal.com
ИванЪ, вы не в курсе например почему во времена всяческих кризисов на всех углах и во всех подворотнях начинают произрастать два вида "легального бизнеса" - букмейкерские конторы и ломбарды?

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
Канеш знаю.
Потому что денег у людей хуй и надежда на чудо в первом случае и на хоть какие-то деньги чтоб купить пожрать во втором.

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drengir.livejournal.com
Тоже мне, блеать, бизнес...
Спалить кху-ям все эти притоны.
По соседству есть такое прибежище быдло-даунов.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
А потом скажут: что это за хуйня - технический ВУЗ? Мракобесие одно и логово антихриста. Сжечь еретиков.
И сожгут.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storr.livejournal.com
Эта.. Так то за прием ставок в интернете. А причем тут барчик, тьолочки, телевизер и вот это все?

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
К слову пришлось.
Окай. Давайте сделаем взамест барчика - серверчик, ПО, инторнет рекламонька, админчики и т.п. По бабосам то на то выйдет.

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm-chik.livejournal.com
вот сейчас прям скупая мужская слеза покатилась по свежевыбритой щеке - так жаль букмекеров*


* - на самом деле нет

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
Вопрос не в букмекерах. Вопрос в принципе.
Так же не жаль барыг магазинных, что им въебали торговый сбор. Не жаль дальнобоев с тахографами и Платоном. Не жаль никого... На том и стоим. Одного ебут - другие хохочут.

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuborgman.livejournal.com
Бар с пивком и телевизоры с футболом? Бугога. Походы ты в конторе не бывал никогда.
Это раньше было просто окошечко кассы, а сейчас они вообще все в инет перешли.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
"Походы ты в конторе не бывал никогда." - нет канеш. Я в этом не понимаю. И мне не интересно.

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] info-seeker.livejournal.com
знаю одно - там крутится черное бабло в неимоверных размерах. + ща наверняка срочняком собирают бабло, чтобы занести кому надо для уменьшения налога.
Лично мне в данном случае По. Именно в данном - тотализаторы и с ним сопряженная шняга.
И да - совершенно не уверен, что 2-3 ляма в для нет казино большие деньги.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 06:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
Я и говорю. У нас в стране одного ебут - все хохочут. А ебут по очереди каждого.
Год назад выебали розницу - половина магазинов закрылась, в остальных ценник поднялся. Заебиииись!
Потом попытались выебать дальнобоев. Хули они ёба ваще? Пусь платят. Теперь этих прищемили. Завтра скажут аптечникам - несите по ляму. А то хули вы.
Потом заправкам - заебали, дайте денег.
И про каждого остальные скажут - так ему! Еби его!!!

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obi-ton.livejournal.com
Несколько в ахуе от комментариев про так букмеккерам и надо, сжигать и выебать и т.д. и т.п.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
Одного ебут - все хохочут.
Но ебут-то всех по кругу...

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hillguard.livejournal.com

Инторнет-инторнет...
Сервер - за рубеж, да хоть к хохлам или в канаду. из зоны ru сайт убрать, плагинчик для гугл-хрома забабахать.
не умеет у нас государство воевать с инторнетами, рутрекер сколько задавить пытаются, но не выходит никак. И онлайн-казино и прочие букмекеры уйдут в подполье и всего делов.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
"И онлайн-казино и прочие букмекеры уйдут в подполье и всего делов." - и кому станет более хорошо пижже?

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nordom.livejournal.com
я абсолютно за прижимание к ногтю игрового бизнеса. но абсолютно против того, как это осуществляется. как-то подленько: ну, мы же не запрещаем! работайте, пожалста!

Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
Я абсолютно за прижимание к ногтю программистов. Заебали хуйню программировать. И ещё они все вирусы пишут. И детскую порнуху распространяют.

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maxho-himself.livejournal.com
В своё время в игорном средние и крупные участники рынка сильно радовались инициативам правительства по укрупнению залов торговых автоматов. Дескать, мелкотню придушат - нам больше достанется. Через пару лет досталось - пошли вслед за мелкотнёй.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 08:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-reaper.livejournal.com
Да там потому что внутренний проеб случился _внезапно_ по распиздяйству отдельных личностей. Хотя начинание наверное было здравое, с их т.з. По сути делали в юридическом поле то, что сейчас государство пытается придушить налогами.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silentfix.livejournal.com
Не боюсь повториться и скажу как всегда с опозданием в твоем псте.

Человек по своей природе слаб, боязлив и ленив. Он любит, когда приносят на блюдечке, вместо того, чтобы добиться самому. Он любит украсть то, что плохо, по его мнению, лежит. Он любит верить в чудо или вообще верить во всякие там религии и макаронных богов. Потому что легче так живется. Да даже у бибизян орангутангских оказалось есть божок, которому они начали поклоняться, пишут британские ученые. Вот и человеки верят, что придут к букмекеру или крупье, поставят бабушкину квартиру на красное и чемодан-вокзал-ниццаибицца! Только вот нет. У ушлого товарища по ту сторону зеленого суконного стола все давно просчитано и выиграть не дадут Уасилию. Дадут веру в выигрыш, кинут кость, тот пустит слюну, а потом кость отберут, а у Уаси уже сок желудочный выделился, он видел краешек чуда, но не успел ухватиться и назавтра он придет закладывать квартиру дедушки чтобы вернуть квартиру бабушки и так далее. Расчет на слабость и веру. И веру в халяву.

Только надо учесть еще то, что самый главный букмекер в мире - государство. И оно "имеет право" проделывать все то, что описано выше. А когда само не успевает, то дает немножко другим порулить. Только налох этот стапроцентный не пойдет на пользу, кмк, в глобальном плане. Опять пустеющие кошельки набьются и пригласят очередных Лопес и Стингов выступить на чьей-то свадьбе(

Человек, который не играет, не пьет, не верит ни во что, не ездит на машине и передвигается на лисапеде, делает сам себе ремонт квартиры не выгоден государству. Он не болеет, не тратит лишнего и дохуя пиздИт)))

Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
Вова, Стасона помнишь? Молчаливый такой? Ну вот он регулярно играет на тотальнике. И нормально... иногда выигрывает. Но он шарит в футболяне и спорте ваще.

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rote-kapelle.livejournal.com
ну автоматы свои перенастроят и дальше стричь бабло.
Там же заряжено всё, никакой случайности быть не может. Выигрыш конторы - 83% принесённых денег, выигрыш игроков - 17%.
Простое применение приложения настройки делает 88 и 12. Отсюда и налог берём.
Там же ничего делать не надо - капекс - фикс, операционка - фикс, сырья нет - делай чо хочешь.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
"ну автоматы свои перенастроят и дальше стричь бабло." - автомат по результатам игры ЦСКА против Спартака? О___О

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kuda-morgalo.livejournal.com
думаю чье-от лобби.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 08:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] max-andriyahov.livejournal.com
кто-то таки написал в Спортлото!

Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ssokol01.livejournal.com
Да просто сервера будут на кипер стоять, и ставочки оттуда принимать.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 09:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nordom.livejournal.com
как будто сейчас по-другому

Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_gorynych_/
Я тоже прихуел с этого утром.
Имел некоторое время проект с букмекерами. Методы конечно у них блядские, бабла немерянно и в кризис их бизнес всегда растёт, но это ж не повод....
Всё равно что завтра придут к ретейлерам и скажут "теперь за продажу еды в интернете ц нас новый налог в 100500 ахулионов за каждую покупку в вашем магазине, а за закрытие интернет-магазина единовременный штраф гос-ву в размере 200300 ахулионов"

Жаль, что большинство поддерживающие идею не отдупляют, что это общий подход и к "мерзким наёбщикам букмекерам" и к "мирным" производителям молока. Это банальный беспредельный отжим.

Date: 29 Mar 2016 08:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
"Всё равно что завтра придут к ретейлерам" - плохие новости. Торговый сбор с того года ввели, ЕМНИП.

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Date: 29 Mar 2016 07:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vodolaz2010.livejournal.com
Боюсь повториться, так как не читал каменты, но все же внесу свои пять копеек.
Мне кажется, что схема уже отработана и будет как с Платоном, расценками ЖКХ и прочей хуетой.
Сперва объявляют о ВНЕЗАПНОМ! повышении поборов с стотыщмильонов раз, потом ждут, пока народ бугуртит и рисует лозунги на смятых простынях, потом воспоследует "Высочайшее Решение" о замене объема побора не на стотыщмильонов раз, а всего лишь на каких-то жалких два-три раза.
В итоге: народ счастлив, что отстоял свои гражданские права и свободы, поборы увеличились, хороший царь осадил злых бояр, Выборы в Думу состоятся при любой явке!

Date: 29 Mar 2016 08:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bougaev.livejournal.com
Может и так. Только, как видно из камментов - СЖЕЕЕЕЧЬ!!!

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